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Chupeta testimony requested by the jury relating to “Juanitas”

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Chivis Martinez Borderland
Beneath discover the testimony from Chupeta requested for by the jury on
Thursday. Particularly they requested for testimony about “Juanitas”
shipments.  Inside the testimony is
specifics about logistics and ledgers–
Q Now,
on this partnership with the Sinaloa Cartel, did you
find yourself
sending them cocaine?
Q What
sort of vessels did you utilize?
Q Did
you might have a code phrase for these cocaine shipments?
Q What
was that code phrase?
THE
INTERPRETER: By interpreter, J-U-A-N-I-T-A-S.
Q How
many juanitas or what number of cocaine shipments often known as
juanitas
did you ship to the Sinaloa Cartel?

A 10
juanitas.

juanita
to the Sinaloa Cartel roughly?
A
Roughly on the finish of 2002.
Q When
did you ship the final cocaine cargo known as
juanita
to the Sinaloa Cartel?
A
Roughly January, February of 2005.
Q When
did you cease sending cocaine to the Sinaloa Cartel?
A When
I used to be arrested in 2007.
Q Now,
you testified earlier than that below this partnership the
Sinaloa
Cartel have been buyers in your cocaine shipments.
Q Once you first began
sending these cocaine shipments known as juanitas to the Sinaloa Cartel, who
particularly was
investing
in these cocaine shipments?
A Mr.
Guzmán Loera, Mr. Mayo Zambada and his brother Ray
Zambada,
Nacho Coronel, the Beltran Leyva brothers, and within the
starting
Vicente Carrillo.
Q What
do you imply by to start with?
A
As a result of he participated till roughly 2004.
A
Properly, one in all his brothers, El Nino, Rodolfo was murdered.
Q And
what did that result in?
A It
led to issues between the folks of the Federation
of the
Sinaloa Cartel and the Guerreros.
Q What
was the top results of these issues?
A We
separated, and he stopped taking part within the
Q When
you say he separated, who particularly are you
A I am
referring to Mr. Vicente Carrillo.
Q Now,
German Rosero was your prime man in Mexico; appropriate?
Q Are
you conscious of whether or not or not Mr. Rosero met with the
defendant
whereas he was in Mexico?
Q Did
Mr. Rosero talk about this with you personally?
Q What
did German inform you?
A
Properly, Mr. German Rosero instructed me that he was going to the
sierras,
to the mountains to talk to Mr. Guzmán Loera, that
he was
stepping into some rickety outdated planes. He mentioned I am nervous
as a result of
these are outdated airplanes, I am scared that one in all these
airplanes
are going to crash with me in it. And he mentioned when
he had
a gathering, properly, one of many conferences he had had with
Mr.
Guzmán Loera, he had instructed him I do know who all that cocaine
that
you are bringing to Mexico and promoting to us belongs to.
Q Mr.
Ramirez, who mentioned that to whom?
A Mr.
Guzmán Loera instructed German Rosero, my lieutenant. And
in a single
of my lieutenant’s journeys to Colombia, he defined this
Q What
is it that the defendant instructed German Rosero at that
promoting
us belongs to, all of the medicine which might be coming from
Colombia
via you, I labored with him for a very long time, with
that
man. I ship my respects. He was all the time a straight
shooter.
And that is mainly what German instructed me.
Q When
the defendant instructed German that he knew who the
cocaine
was coming from, what did you perceive that to imply?
A So
it meant that the defendant knew that cocaine that was
arriving
to them, to the Sinaloa Cartel, to Mr. Guzmán Loera,
and to the others was
mine, that I used to be the one sending it to

 

them
and giving it to them in excessive seas.

Q Did
you say something to German Rosero about this?

A Sure.

Q What did you inform
German Rosero?
A I mentioned: Please, act
such as you did not hear something.
Please do not point out my
identify in any respect. You retain exhibiting your
face and maintain saying
that is your cocaine and do not identify me.
Q Now, did you ultimately
ship out a cocaine cargo named
Q Do you recall what number of
kilos of cocaine have been on that
A Roughly 3,600,
3,800 kilos of cocaine.
Q Was this the common
measurement of a cocaine cargo you have been
sending round this time?
A I began with that
quantity of kilos in that cargo.
Q Was that small or giant
in comparison with the shipments you
A It was the smallest one
as a result of we went again to the
fishing boats. I began
that option to check if all the things was
going to go properly, if it
was going to work.
Q Did that cocaine
cargo make it efficiently to Mexico?
A By my lieutenants
and since the cash returned to
Colombia from the cocaine
I had bought him at excessive seas.
Q And who have been the
buyers on this preliminary Juanita 1 one cargo?
A Mr. Guzman, Mr. Nacho
Coronel, the Beltran Leyva
brothers, Mayo Zambada,
his brother, and Viceroy who’s
Q Do you bear in mind what
share the Sinaloa Cartel
invested on this particular
cocaine cargo?
A I do not bear in mind
precisely how a lot.
Q And the place did you hand
off this preliminary Juanita 1 cocaine
cargo to the Mexicans?
A Excessive seas, it was
delivered to them.
Q Have you learnt who it was
delivered to?
Q Who was it delivered
to?
Q So what function did Nacho
Coronel play in Juanita 1?
A He got here up with the
logistics for receiving my ship at
excessive seas with the
cocaine and he additionally gave German the cash
for the Sinaloa Cartel
folks’s share earlier than I despatched out the
Q Mr. Ramirez, you have
used that time period a few instances, the
logistics for receiving
the cargo. Are you able to clarify what
A The logistics imply,
means what, I imply, which member of
the Federation of the
Sinaloa Cartel was going to ship the
fishing boat to fulfill up
with our boat to switch the coke on
to the Sinaloa Cartel
folks’s boat and to dump it onto the
Q So, if Nacho Coronel
was liable for receiving the
cocaine cargo of
Juanita 1, does that imply that he was the
sole proprietor of these kilos
of cocaine?
A No. No. He was simply
doing the logistics of receiving
Q For the Juanitas that
you ended up sending to the Sinaloa
cartel, was Nacho Coronel
the one one which dealt with the
logistics of receiving
your cocaine on the excessive seas?
Q Who else obtained —
who else dealt with the logistics for
receiving these cocaine
shipments?
A The Beltran Leyva
brothers and Mr. Guzman Loera.
Q Did you find yourself sending
a cocaine cargo titled
Q When did you begin
planning Juanita 2 compared to
the when Juanita one
left?
A As soon as Juanita Uno made
it efficiently to Mexico and the
cocaine had been obtained
by them, by the Sinaloa Cartel’s
folks, it was
transported by them to america. It
was bought after which the
cash got here again and was delivered to me,
delivered to my folks in
Mexico Metropolis. Then I instantly
started the planning of
Juanita Dos, Juanita 2.
Q How lengthy did it take
you to plan to ship out Juanita 2?
A The planning would
normally take two to 3 weeks,
Q Are you able to describe
briefly what would occur in these two
to 4 weeks that you just
have been planning the cocaine cargo?
A Right. I needed to
coordinate the sending of my cocaine
to the Colombian coast
from the place the cargo would go away.
We needed to coordinate who
was going to guard the cargo of
cocaine within the Colombian
coast, whether or not it’s the guerillas or

We needed to make,
coordinate corruption preparations

with the Colombian navy
to have the ability to know that manner additionally the place
the American frigates
can be situated in order that we may determine
a route for our cocaine,
our cargo of cocaine to keep away from
assembly up with them and
to keep away from the boat being seized.
Q Did you need to
buy something to placed on these boats?
A Right. I had, I had
to purchase the meals for the crew of
the boat, gas for the
boat, components for the ship in case the
ship suffered an
inconvenience, and ice to place within the freezer
within the ship the place
supposedly the catch can be.
Q What catch are you
speaking about?
A I am talking of the
catch that the boat would faux to
be taking through the use of the
nets because it was going up the Pacific
Ocean to fulfill up with the
Mexican boat.
Q As soon as the cocaine
cargo was prepared to depart from
Colombia,
roughly how lengthy would it not take to get to the
assembly level with the
Sinaloa Cartel on the excessive seas?
A It may very well be two, three,
4 weeks, relying on if there
was nothing surprising
that got here up, and in addition the ocean
Q What function would you
play throughout these two, three or
4 weeks that the
cocaine was on its option to the Sinaloa
A I might be in everlasting
contact with my lieutenant in
Colombia who in flip have been
in everlasting contact with Mr. German
Rosero in Mexico and I
would monitor how issues have been going,
you recognize, on the boat
till my boat met up with the Mexican
boat. The cocaine was
transferred after which it could be
offloaded in Mexico so I
may inform them my lieutenants,
German, the cocaine is
there, prepare to start out amassing
Q Through the time you
have been planning these Juanita cocaine
shipments, how continuously
have been you talking together with your
lieutenants and
workers?
A Completely, all the time,
all through the week, a number of instances
Q Wouldn’t it be truthful to say
that you’re a hands-on boss?
Q Did Juanita 2 make it
efficiently to Mexico?
Q Now, for Juanita 2
via 10, was the logistics the identical
for all the opposite cocaine
shipments that you just simply, the method
Q Was your stage of
involvement within the preparation of those
Q Now, you mentioned that
Juanita 1 had roughly 36 to
3,800 kilos of cocaine.
Did the quantities improve?
Q What was the most important
cocaine cargo by way of Juanita that
A 12,500 kilos of
cocaine.
Q Now, did you might have any
points with any of the sooner
A I had an issue with
the Juanita 4. The boat was
really boarded by the
American Coast Guard and it was
searched intimately, my
ship, the one carrying the cocaine.
Q Did the Coast Guard
discover the cocaine in your ship?
A No. We had it in a
actually well-built secret compartment
they usually weren’t in a position to
discover it.
Q What, if something, did
you do with that boat?
A I instructed them to return
again once more and to method the
Colombian Pacific coast
to switch the cocaine to a different
Colombian fishing boat
as a result of I made a decision to not use that one
as a result of it had already
been boarded so it appeared harmful to
me, it appeared dangerous to
me.
A I instructed my lieutenants
to not use the boat that had been
boarded to switch the
cocaine to a brand new, a distinct fishing
boat. The cocaine was
positioned within the secret compartments and
he took, took off once more
going in the direction of the excessive sea assembly
level the place it could have
to ship the cocaine to the
Q Now, Mr. Ramirez, you
mentioned lots of planning and
bills to arrange these
Juanita shipments.
Q Whose cash paid for
these bills for these cocaine
Q Who was the one individual
licensed to make such funds?
Q How did you make these
funds happen?
A I might instruct my
lieutenants to make mentioned funds.
Q Might your lieutenants
make funds with out your categorical
Q How continuously would
you meet together with your lieutenants and  staff
to debate the funds that you just have been making for the
A Steadily as, as want
be, as many instances as vital.
Q And who particularly
would you meet with to debate these
A With my lieutenant
Laureano Renteria, with an accountant
whom we used to name
Esteban, and on some events, Sergio
Q In what stage of element
would you go into once you would
have these conferences about
these shipments?
MR. PURPURA: Your Honor,
respectfully, timeframe?
Q At what time limit
are we speaking about?
From what time have been you
sending Juanita cocaine
A Roughly from
in the direction of the top of 2002 till
Juanita 10 which took
place in 2005.
Q So throughout this time,
what stage of element would you get
into in regards to the funds
that have been made?
A To each element, to
each small element. All of the funds
have been checked and
instruct, ordered by me.
Q Had been there written
stories stored for the Juanita drug
Q Did you retain these
accounting stories?
A Sure. They have been created
by my folks.
Q Did you bodily
enter the knowledge that have been
contained in these
accounting ledgers?
A Two of my lieutenants
did it who have been Laureano Renteria
Mantilla and one in all his
assistants whose identify is Orlando
Q Who ordered these
accounting ledgers to be created?
A As a result of I wanted to
maintain management of the shipments of
cocaine, of the bills,
to then be capable of know what was the
Q Did you retain accounting
data of your bills in
addition to the Juanita
drug shipments?
Q What did you name these
accounting ledgers?
A The principle accounting
ledger.
Q What data did
you order stored in these data?
A Every thing that needed to
do with the bills being made
with the Juanitas, about
the Juanitas and in addition different issues
that needed to do with my
group.
Q Did you, did you order
these foremost accounting ledgers to
Q Did you evaluation the
ledgers for the Juanitas in addition to
the primary accounting
ledgers?
Q How continuously would
you evaluation these stories?
A Steadily throughout the
week, you recognize, when it was
Q Did you evaluation each
single line merchandise in these stories?
Q Did you ever make
adjustments to those stories?
A Right, sure, when it
was vital, as a result of one thing
Q Why was it essential
so that you can evaluation these stories?
A As a result of I wished to
maintain observe, to have management with all
element, with nice element
of my cash.
Q Now, Mr. Ramirez, does
there come a time that you just go away
Q Roughly when was
that?
Q Do you bear in mind when
throughout the yr?
A Earlier than June. April,
Could, after the extradition request
from Washington got here out
due to RICO.
Q Did you proceed to
ship cocaine — I am sorry.
The place did you go once you
left Colombia?
Q Did you proceed to
ship cocaine shipments to the Sinaloa
Cartel once you have been in
Venezuela?
Q Whereas have been you in
Venezuela, who was operating your
A I did it fully
myself.
Q How continuously would
you speak to members of your
A Consistently, your complete
day, on a regular basis.
Q Did you ship any
Juanita drug shipments when you have been in
A Juanita Siete, Juanita
7.
Q Did you see the stories
that have been created for Juanita 7?
A I instructed my
lieutenants in Venezuela to arrange the
job and I checked the
accounting and the primary accounting
ledger and all of the bills
that needed to do with that cargo.
Q Mr. Ramirez, does there
come a time that you just go away
Q Whereas have been you in
Brazil, did you proceed to ship
cocaine shipments to the
Sinaloa Cartel?
Q Whilst you have been in
Brazil, who was accountable for your drug
trafficking group?
Q How have been you in a position to
ship your shipments when you have been
A As a result of I used to be directing
the cocaine shipments with my
lieutenants. I used to be in
everlasting communication with them. I
had lieutenants in
Venezuela, others, properly, those I had in
Colombia, and I used to be in
everlasting contact with them.
Q Did you create any
data — I am sorry.
Did you ship any Juanitas
whereas have been you in Brazil?
Q Did you create any or
did you might have your group
create any accounting
ledgers for Juanita 8, 9 and 10?
A Similar as all the time with the
ones earlier than.
Q Did you see these
ledgers for Juanita 8, 9 and 10 whereas
A As a result of it was despatched to
me, as a result of they’d folks convey
reminiscence sticks, my
lieutenants would ship folks.
MS. GOLDBARG: For the
witness solely — really, might
I method, Your Honor,
because it’s a number of pages?
MS. GOLDBARG: Let me do
this from the stand,
Your Honor, to make it
faster. Only for the witness.
I am exhibiting you 302A. I am
going to undergo these
rapidly. 302B, 302C, D,
E, F, G, H.
MR. PURPURA: Your Honor,
simply to shortcut it, the
protection will stipulate that,
the truth is, these ledgers precisely
depict the ledgers that
he is referring to that have been ready.
THE COURT: Okay. Are you
stipulating that they’re
MR. PURPURA: We’ve got no
objection primarily based on the
basis that was laid
in court docket right here in the present day.
THE COURT: Okay. They’re
obtained. Simply recite
the entire numbers, the
first and final.
MS. GOLDBARG: Positive. 302I,
302J, 302Ok and 302L. So
the federal government would transfer
with out objection 302A via L
THE COURT: Okay. They’re
in.
(Authorities Reveals 302A
via 302L so marked.)
MS. GOLDBARG: I am going
to placed on the display screen for
Q Mr. Ramirez, what are
we right here?
A These are the bills
for the Juanita 2 cargo.
Q In accordance with this
ledger on 302A, what number of kilos of
cocaine was in Juanita 2?
A 6,000 kilos of cocaine.
Q In accordance with this
ledger, who had the accountability to
obtain the cocaine at
the excessive seas?
A So, the Beltran Leyvas
via Olafo or Ofalto, my
Q I’ve an arrow right here.
Is that the place you say Olafo,
Q What’s — is {that a}
code phrase?
A It was the individual from
the Sinaloa Cartel Federation who
was investing within the
cocaine cargo I used to be sending to them in
Q And above that, there’s
a reputation. There is a identify. What’s
A That was me. That was a
code phrase for me.
Q So in response to this,
how a lot did you might have invested in
A 3,000 kilos of cocaine.
Q And who have been the
buyers, who have been the Mexican
buyers on this cocaine
cargo, Juanita 2?
A The Sinaloa Cartel or
Federation folks.
Q And who would that be
presently?
A Mr. Guzman Loera,
Beltran Leyvas and Vicente Carrillo,
Mayo Zambada and his
brother Rey Zambada and Nacho Coronel.
Q Flip now to 302B.
In accordance with 302B, what number of kilos of
cocaine have been despatched on
Juanita 2?
A 6,465 kilos of cocaine.
Q Let’s zoom in just a little.
See what number of kilos it says
A I solely see as much as the
column the place it says, “Saldo.” I
do not see all the best way
down.
Q For those who take a look at the highest.
Q I am sorry. That is
Juanita 3?
A Sure. On the highest, it
says 6,165 kilos, however on the underside,
it says that the entire
despatched was 6,485 kilos of cocaine.
Q Why the distinction
between the highest line and the underside
A As a result of one in all my
lieutenants who we known as El Broder
invested 300 kilos of cocaine,
he supplied 300 kilos of
Q In accordance with this
ledger, who was liable for
receiving this cocaine on
behalf of The Sinaloa Cartel?
A Due to my
lieutenants and since the N was a code
phrase we used within the
ledgers to check with him.
Q Displaying you what is now
in proof as Authorities
MS. GOLDBARG: Sure, sir. Sure,
Your Honor.
Q That is web page 1
(revealed) and now I’m exhibiting you
In accordance with this ledger,
what number of kilos of cocaine
have been despatched on Juanita – 4?
A 8,000 kilos of cocaine.
Q Are you able to circle the place
you see that?
Q And in response to this
ledger, who was liable for
receiving the cocaine
cargo on the excessive seas for The
A As a result of S-H-A, Sha,
that is how we check with him,
Are you able to circle the place you
see that?
Q Might you learn that off
once more, please?
A It says S-H-A, Sha,
3,000 kilos of cocaine.
Q Let me zoom in just a little
bit. Is that first letter C or
Q And what did C-H-A
imply?
A That is a code phrase we
used to check with Mr. Guzmán Loera,
like Chapo. We solely used
Cha.
Q In accordance with this
ledger, what number of kilos did The Sinaloa
Cartel put money into Juanita
– 4?
A They invested in 3,000
kilos of cocaine.
Q Of the entire 8,000
funding?
A 8,000 kilos of cocaine.
Q Mr. Ramirez, earlier than our
break you testified that in 2004
you went from Colombia to
Venezuela.
Do you recall that
testimony?
Q Why did you allow
Colombia and go to Venezuela?
As a result of the U.S.
Authorities requested my extradition and
they even provide a $5
million reward. And the U.S. authorities
and the Colombian
authorities have been doing all the things doable to
A As a result of I lived via
it. As a result of the U.S. Authorities
requested my extradition.
They publish an image of me with
the reward of as much as $5
million everywhere in the nation.
Q Previous to this did you
have any data out of your
corrupt contacts about
the U.S. investigation in opposition to you?
Q Did you ever make
bribery funds on to U.S. legislation
A To a bunch of the
Colombian police, an elite group of the
Colombian police who
labored with the group named Siu, who
labored for the U.S. Authorities
embassy in Colombia in Bogota
and together with the DEA
brokers assigned to mentioned embassy.
Q However did any DEA brokers
obtain your cash straight that
Q Going again to
Authorities Exhibit 302-C in proof, these
are the ledgers for
Juanita – 4.
Q Now, you have testified
beforehand that Juanita – Four needed to
be despatched again to Colombia
as a result of it had been aborted by the
Q Is there something in
the ledgers which might be Juanita – 4
that point out this occasion?
Q Might you mark it,
please?
A (So marked.) Rental of
new Juanita.
Q And if I might ask you to
learn what you might have within the
Q What does it say there?
A Juanita’s unit was
modified to $60.
A That Juanita was
modified signifies that the boat was modified
and that introduced an
further price of $60 per kilo of cocaine
that was transferred to
the opposite ship.
Q You additionally testified, Mr.
Ramirez, that you just had accounting
ledgers for the primary
accounting ledger to your group?
Q Displaying you what is in
proof as Authorities
Exhibit 302-J, do you
acknowledge this doc?
A It’s an accounting
from the e-book that we used to name
the primary accounting
ledger.
Q Is there something in
right here on this foremost accounting ledger
referring to Juanita – 4?
A Up above it says: Models
pad are going out for Juanita –
4. Then it says transport
for Juanita – Four can also be going out.
After which it says, cost
for Juanita – Four for the price of
Q And what does it say in
the statement code for that
final entry you simply learn?
A Juanita was modified due
to security causes.
Q And in addition exhibiting you
what’s in proof as 302-Ok.
Q And what’s this
doc right here, 302-Ok?
A It is a doc of
the accounting from the primary
Q Do you see any
reference right here to Juanita – 4?
A 50 % cost
Juanita – 4.
Q What does it say within the
different columns?
A Subsequent to it, it says:
Fee is made for 7,660 models.
Then three different
references to Juanita – Four seem. New
reporters for the delay
within the going out.
Q What’s a reporter, Mr.
Ramirez?
A Reporteros have been the
stories that we obtain from the
Colombian Navy for our
corruption funds to them, which have been
informing us and giving
us the navigational charts of the place
the American frigate
can be on the Pacific Ocean.
Q Now, transferring alongside to
302-D, Juanita-5.
In accordance with the ledger,
what number of kilos of cocaine
A 10,000 kilos of
cocaine.
Q And might you circle
that, please?
Q In accordance with these
ledgers, who inside The Sinaloa Cartel
was liable for
receiving this cocaine on the excessive seas?
A The Beltran Leyvas
via one in all my lieutenants, Alvaro
Q Are you able to circle the place
you see that identify?
Q And above that identify do
you see Olmedo, what’s that?
A That is me. That is
one other code phrase to check with myself.
Q Who have been the buyers
from The Sinaloa Cartel on this
A Mr. Guzmán Loera, the
Beltran Leyva brothers, Mr. Nacho
Coronel, Mayo Zambada
along with his brother Rey Zambada, and
Viceroy, Vicente
Carrillo.
Q Shifting alongside to Juanita
– 6.
MS. GOLDBARG: 302-E, for
the document.
Q What number of kilos of
cocaine did you ship to The Sinaloa
A 10,000 kilos of
cocaine.
Q Are you able to mark the place you
see that?
Q In accordance with the document
for Juanita – 6, who was
liable for receiving
the cargo of cocaine on the excessive
A The Beltran Leyva
brothers via my lieutenant, Olfato
Q And the way a lot did The
Sinaloa Cartel make investments on this
cocaine cargo, Juanita
– 6?
Q Who have been the names that
are beneath Olfato,
A Riascos, Broder, Alex,
Don R.
MS. GOLDBARG: Maintain on,
I am sorry. Is there a
downside with the
microphone?
THE COURT: Say one thing.
MS. GOLDBARG: Can we attempt
that another time, Your
THE COURT: Why do not you
attempt turning it off and
turning it on and see if
that helps.
Q Who’re the those that
are beneath Olfato’s names, do they
belong to your
group?
Q And who’re the
buyers from The Sinaloa Cartel on this
A Mr. Guzmán Loera, the
Beltran Leyva brothers, Mayo
Zambada along with his brother
Rey Zambada, Nacho Coronel and
Q Displaying you now what’s
in proof Authorities
Q Juanita – 7, what number of
kilos of cocaine did you ship to
The Sinaloa Cartel in
Juanita – 7?
A 10,000 kilos of
cocaine.
Q And in response to this
ledger, who was liable for
receiving the cocaine
cargo for The Sinaloa Cartel?
Q And the way a lot did The
Sinaloa Cartel make investments on this
Q Who have been the members of
The Sinaloa Cartel that invested
on this cocaine cargo?
And let me ask this
query: Is it the identical
members of The Sinaloa
Cartel you simply mentioned on the final three
Q Shifting on to Juanita –
8.
Q In accordance with Authorities
Exhibit 302-G, the accounting for
Juanita – 8, what number of
kilos of cocaine did you ship to The
Sinaloa Cartel on this
cocaine cargo?
A 10,500 kilos of
cocaine.
Q And who from The
Sinaloa Cartel was liable for
A The Beltran Leyva
brothers via my lieutenant, Alvaro
Q How are you aware that
from this ledger?
A Due to the
accounting and since Orestes was the
similar Alvaro Palau. That
was one other code phrase we used to
Q Orestes, is that that
identify proper there?
Q And the identify above
Orestes Olmedo, who’s {that a}
A That’s me, that was a
code phrase to check with me.
Q Going via
Authorities Exhibit 302-H in proof, which
is the ledger for juanita
9, are you able to inform the jury what number of
kilos of cocaine you despatched
to the Sinaloa Cartel in juanita
A 12,000 kilos of
cocaine.
Q In accordance with this
ledger, who was accountable throughout the
Sinaloa Cartel of
receiving this juanita 9 cocaine
Q And the way are you aware
that?
A From the accountant,
from my lieutenant, and since
Nieto was a code phrase
that we used to make use of to check with Nacho
Q Are you able to inform us the place
on the ledger it reveals Nieto,
Q In accordance with this
document, what number of kilos of cocaine did
the Sinaloa Cartel make investments
in in juanita 9?
A 2,500 kilos of cocaine.
Q Lastly, going to
juanita ten, Authorities Exhibit 302-I,
in response to this
exhibit, accounting for juanita ten, how
many kilos of cocaine did
you ship to the Sinaloa Cartel?
A 3,200 kilos of cocaine.
Q From this ledger, may
you inform who was liable for
receiving this cocaine
from the Sinaloa Cartel?
A I do know it exactly.
Barco was my lieutenant who
organized the logistics
to obtain the cargo.
Q Mr. Ramirez, let me ask
you, did you flip these
accounting ledgers over
to the U.S. Authorities?
Q Now, you testified that
juanita eight, 9, and ten have been
despatched when you have been in
Brazil. Do you recall that?
Q Did juanita one via
ten make it efficiently to
Q What number of efficiently
made it to Mexico?
Q What occurred to the
different three?
A By my lieutenant
and since I personally directed
the cargo of that load
of cocaine. I used to be personally on prime
Q What are the names of
the three juanitas that have been
A Juanita eight, juanita
9, and juanita ten.
Q When was juanita eight
seized?
A September 2004,
roughly.
Q Do you bear in mind when
juanita 9 was seized?
A Additionally roughly
September 2004.
Q How do you bear in mind
this so clearly?
A As a result of that is a
tragedy for me as a drug trafficker
as a result of in my complete
historical past as a drug trafficker, I had by no means
had two ships seized by
the American authorities, that had
Q What number of kilos whole
have been there in juanita eight and
A 22,500 kilos of
cocaine.
Q Who have been the buyers
of the Sinaloa Cartel of these two
A Mr. Guzmán Loera,
Beltran Leyva, Nacho Coronel, Mayo and
Ray Zambada, and Vicente
Carrillo, Viceroy.
Q What sort of delivery
vessels have been these?
A Transport vessels. I am
sorry, they have been white delivery
Q Have you learnt the place the
cocaine was discovered aboard the ships?
A Not precisely, nevertheless it was
saved in a secret compartment in
the construction of the
ships.
Q Now, trying briefly at
juanita eight, in response to this
ledger, what did you place
on juanita eight, and that is 302-G
A What do you imply? I
did not perceive the query. Can
Q In accordance with this
ledger, did you place something on the
It says the phrase
“hielo” proper there, H-I-E-L-O?
Q Why did you place — what
is that?
A That is two tons of ice
that we positioned within the boat’s ice
chests for the catch that
had been caught supposedly by the
Q Would you sometimes
put fish on the boats as properly?
Q Now, because of the
seizures of juanita eight and
juanita 9, did you
change of any of the strategies of
transporting cocaine to
the Sinaloa Cartel?
A Properly, it occurred to me
or I gave directions to my
lieutenants of constructing
submarines.
Q What do you imply by a
submarine?
A A submarine is a vessel
that submerges just a few meters below
the water, that manner it
may cross the Pacific Ocean and keep away from
being detected by
American frigate boats and by the American
airplanes which might be
patrolling the Pacific Ocean, and after they
see a suspicion fishing
vessel, they board it. So we did this
to keep away from that as a result of we
had misplaced two shipments in these two
earlier fishing vessels.
Q Did you ship a
submarine to the Sinaloa Cartel?
A In January, February,
2005, roughly, I despatched the
Q And what was the identify
of the cargo?
Q Displaying you once more
302-I, is the accounting ledger for the
first submarine you despatched
to the Sinaloa Cartel?
Q Did this submarine make
it efficiently to the Sinaloa
A It was additionally seized in
the Pacific.
Q Was this the one time
you tried to ship a submarine
Q Did you ship extra
submarines to the Sinaloa Cartel?
Q What number of extra
submarines did you ship to the Sinaloa
A Roughly eight to
ten further submarines.
Q What number of kilos of
cocaine on common did you ship on
these submarine
shipments?
A Usually between 4,000
and 5,000 kilos of cocaine.
Q These further
submarines that you just despatched after juanita
10 was seized, did they
all make it efficiently to the
Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico?
Q Did you begin sending
cocaine every other option to the
Sinaloa Cartel in
addition to the submarines?
Q How else did you begin
sending cocaine to the Sinaloa
A We have been additionally utilizing
small plane, piston planes to
Q Did you might have a code
phrase for the small airplanes?
Q What was that code
phrase?
THE INTERPRETER:
C-O-M-E-T-A-S, by interpreter.
Q Displaying you what is in
proof as Authorities Exhibit
302-L. What is that this
doc?
A It is the primary ledgers
accounting.
Q Do you see something in
right here associated to the cometa?
Q And what does it say
there?
A It says 50 %
cost transport cometa 4.
Q Are you able to learn the road
above that, please, as properly?
A Fee manufacturing
800 models cometa 4.
Q What does that imply to
you?
A 800 kilos of cocaine
that we had made as a result of these have been
the 800 kilos that we
despatched on that airplane.
Q And who have been these cometas
going to?
A Central America,
Guatemala.
Q And who was receiving
them?
A The Sinaloa Cartel
folks.
Q Have you learnt
roughly what number of planes of cocaine you
despatched to the Sinaloa
Cartel throughout this timeframe?
Q Roughly what number of?
A Roughly 10
airplanes.
Q What was the common
amount of cocaine per airplane?
A 600 to 800 kilos of
cocaine.
Q Did these 10 planes
make it efficiently to the Sinaloa
Q Who was your lieutenant
accountable for the airplanes, the
A Sophia, and one other
individual we known as Victor.
Q Now, throughout this time
that you’re sending the juanita
cocaine shipments to the
Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico, are you aware
the place these medicine are
being bought?
A By my lieutenants
and selecting up the cash for the
cometas, for the
airplanes that we have been sending.
Q The place was the Sinaloa
Cartel sending the cocaine that
they have been receiving on
the cometas?
Q Now, you talked about
earlier that there have been numerous
strategies of transportation
you discovered about together with trains.
Did you might have any particular
conversations with any of your
lieutenants in regards to the
transportation of your cocaine by way of
Q How did this
dialog come up?
A As a result of there had been
a delay in paying me cash for the
cocaine I had despatched to the
Sinaloa Cartel, to the Federation.
So I spoke to my
lieutenant, properly, to 2 of my lieutenants,
and I mentioned, what’s
taking place, why is there a delay with my
cash. And so they mentioned it
was as a result of the Sinaloa Cartel folks
had had a cocaine seizure
within the U.S. and it had been
Q Did your lieutenants
inform you the place that practice seizure
occurred within the United
States?
A They mentioned the seizure
had been in New York.
Q Did your lieutenants
inform you what sort of trains have been
getting used for the
cargo of cocaine?

Concludes testimony relating to Juanitas web page 100 through 132 testimony Monday December third 


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